第74集:改变你的职业与Ramit Sethi

我真的很兴奋与你分享这个奖金插曲!下面是对我们的英雄之一Ramit Sethi的快速采访,我们将在今年改变你的职业和生活!如果你有20分钟听,你不会失望的。

你可以在博客上或网上观看这期节目iTunes.,Spotify,谷歌玩,旋转,口袋里投, 和钉箱机。你可以找到播客帖子存档在这里

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-如果你还没听过Elsie对Ramit的第一次采访,现在开始了35集

-我们喜欢Ramit的书,我会教你如何变得富有。我把这本书给了很多朋友,并经常向他们推荐。

-他有个新课程找到你的梦想工作我们在这集里谈了很多。

你应该在Instagram上关注Ramit报名参加他的通讯。这两个规则。认真对待。

- 你也可以听到我们在博客上的新课程,博客的必需品

第74集成绩单

艾玛:您正在收听的是《美丽的混乱》播客节目,今天我非常激动地CSGO雷电竞要和大家分享我对Ramit Sethi的采访。你可能记得他在第35集里,埃尔西采访过他。我们是他的书《我教你致富》的超级粉丝,他还推出了一门新课程《找到你的理想工作》。我们聊了一下。我们聊到了他去年做的一个大变动。我们讨论了关于加薪和工作津贴的谈判以及如何找到适合你的工作以及如何在历史上找到希望。所以我喜欢这个采访。看完之后我超级兴奋。我想你也会的。来听一听。

好吧。上次我们聊天,你要和我妹妹聊天,埃尔希,你已经知道,我们是你的书和你的品牌的忠实粉丝,我将教你如何致富,本月你有一个新的课程,找到你梦想的工作,我很兴奋。我觉得这是一个听众会喜欢的话题。我也认为今年每个人都在寻找一种方法来利用历史上的这段时间,为自己找到一些积极的东西,找到更多的希望。所以我很喜欢这个话题。我很喜欢你的教学方式,因为你的教学中充满了实用的建议。所以你会告诉我们要找哪些银行账户和哪些信用卡。但这也与心态和心理有关。因此,考虑到这一点,我想知道的是,当人们面临职业或生活的重大变化时,他们的哪些心态会适得其反。我们要怎么做才能克服这些困难呢?

Ramit:嗯,有两个人。第一个是“我应该很幸运能有一份工作”。这是超级常见的。有趣的是,当经济伟大的人们伟大时,人们已经告诉了自己,当经济贫穷时,人们也告诉了自己。所以如果你只是在好的和坏经济体中感到幸运能够拥有任何工作,也许它实际上不是关于经济,也许是关于你长大的信仰。我们很多人和父母长大,告诉我们哦,不要试图这样做。你应该很高兴你有一项工作。而且我不相信。我不认为我每天都想去某个或九个小时,只是幸福,这是一份工作。谁想要“工作”或“关系”? I want to have a great job. I want to have one that pays me well, challenges me. If I don’t want to commute, I don’t want to have to have a commute. So that’s number one. That’s the first mindset change that I want to encourage all of us. It’s not enough to settle for a job. I deserve a dream job. OK, that’s number one. And the second one, once people acknowledge this and they say, OK, all right, fine, fine, I need to get a job, you ask people, OK, what is your next step? And they go like this, “uh, I need to figure it out”. When they say figure it out, what they really mean is I think I need to update my resume. I’m probably going to go to some random job search website, type in the exact job title I have today, the one that makes me unhappy. And then I’m just going to wait passively for companies to find my resume and send it to me. The key thing I would teach everyone here is that. Top performers find dream jobs in a completely different way than average applicants, average applicants are passive. They put their resume online and wait. Top performers take a totally different approach and finding a dream job is a skill. You learn the skill, you’ll land the job.

艾玛:我很喜欢,因为你提到的第一个问题让我很纠结,因为你想要成为一个感恩的人,你想要对你所拥有的一切心存感激。但是我也认为在解决问题的时候会有一个障碍,我不打算去追求梦想,因为我要我要我很感激我拥有一些东西,我要做的只是保持低调。我喜欢这样。我喜欢你解决这个问题。

Ramit:你知道,我很快乐,但我并不满足。你可以两者都有你可以快乐和感恩,但不满足。我们公司也有员工。他们是雇员。他们已经在这里住了很多年了,他们很快乐。他们的收入很高,但是他们对生活中的某些领域不满意,我也不满意。所以可能有一个领域是我想要在摄影方面做得更好的。或者,你知道吗?我现在能应付得了。我真的很高兴,也很满意我在这方面的生活。我很好。 So it’s not that we always need to be climbing some invisible ladder. There are areas of life. But if you’re listening to this, my guess is that you might not be satisfied with your job. You might be happy, maybe not, but you might want to get paid more. So, for example, we teach people how to get substantial raises, ten thousand to eighty thousand dollars raises. We teach people who used to have to commute an hour, hour and a half every day how to get a zero commute job working remotely. These are the kind of things where you start to imagine in your life. And if you’re playing small, you will instantly talk yourself out of it. “Well, I don’t deserve that. That might work. Well, if I went to that college, I don’t know, because if I got that pay, then I’d have a lot more responsibility”…trust yourself. If you got paid ten thousand dollars more like we can show you in the dream job program or twenty-five thousand dollars more trust in yourself that you would be smart enough to know how to handle those responsibilities. I trust myself, and I think you could trust yourself as well.

艾玛:我很喜欢,就像我之前提到的,我们是ramit的超级粉丝,所以我碰巧知道,如果大家还没有在Instagram上关注@ramit,你需要关注我最喜欢的,而不仅仅是学习所有实用的技巧和思维方式。那是我的最爱。我觉得我也总能学到一些东西,这让我更有力量。但不管怎样,我们今天不讨论巨魔。由于我是你的粉丝,我碰巧知道你和你的伴侣去年从纽约搬到了洛杉矶,这并不一定意味着你的职业改变,尽管通常搬家可能与此有关。但这更像是生活的改变。我只是想知道你会与我们分享一下你们是如何决定,也许如果有任何障碍或任何整理时刻或困难,因为它是这样一个巨大的变化,很多人都面临诸如此类。

Ramit:对,我们都面临着这样或那样的变化,我和妻子在纽约生活了10多年,那是我们相识的地方。当COVID - 19发生时,我有一个在创伤时期的一般生活规则,那就是恐慌是不好的,但过度反应是好的。这一切的发生都是因为我上了创伤课,以及如何在火灾等情况下,某些人幸存下来。我记得上大学的时候读过很多故事,故事里的人看到一些不好的事情发生了,他们就想,我们得离开这里。他们行动迅速。这是一个很大的决定因素。所以当COVID发生时,我对我的妻子说,我们得走了。也许是因为我看了太多蝙蝠侠电影。我看到桥被吊起来了。我就想,我们得离开这里。 Yeah. And I remember texting my friends on WhatsApp and they were like, what are you talking about? It was that early that people were not really leaving or thinking about leaving. So we did. And we were fortunate to be able to move fast and we had saved money. So we were not — money was not the primary limiter for us. It was how fast can we move? And we moved outside the city for a few months. And I have to tell you, you know, I don’t really love change. I like my routines, you know? And so being there was, you know, we’re not going to complain. We were fortunate to be safe, but we were not in our routine. And then finally, my wife suggested, you know, hey, we’re both from California. We’ve thought about moving to California. Why don’t we give it a shot? Let’s just see how it is. And if we like it, we can stay. And if not, we can come back to New York and our families are also in California. So it made it very appealing to us. And if it wasn’t for her, I probably would not have done it, because, like I said, I don’t love change, but she’s pushed me to be a little bit more adventurous. And I said, all right, let’s try it. And so we made the move. And we love, we love L.A. There’s so many things we love. I’m still getting used to needing a car, but we do. I wake up every day and open the door and expect it to be frigid or humid. And it’s not it’s always the same. I love it. And I think one lesson I learned, which I think maybe all of us can apply at some point in our life, is that whether it’s a life decision or a negotiation, 80 percent of the work is really done before you ever walk in the room, you know, you walk into a room and if you’re negotiating your salary, that work has already been done with the way you approach the job, the way you filled out your cover letter, how you talk to them in your interview. Same thing with us moving. We did not have to worry about savings because we’d been saving ahead of time. That stuff, having those foundational fundamentals done ahead of time allows us all to make nimble moves when it calls for it. And just want to add one last thing. We don’t have kids, so that definitely makes things simpler. There are lots of parents who can’t just pick up and pack up and move across the country instantly. So we’re all dealing with different things. But, you know, I guess the lesson I learned back all the way back in college, you know, don’t panic, but overreaction is good in times like this. That’s what eventually brought us across the country.

艾玛:我也爱,我觉得有很多智慧,我猜那是你妻子的方式。这是她引起的。这并不一定是永远的。我们不必完全告别我们曾经拥有的生活。我们要尝试一些新东西。我认为改变生活是一件好事,因为有时候正是失去了你已经习惯的东西才让改变变得如此可怕。这是你给自己的。我可以回到这里。我可以回到这份工作,也许我能接受。但这不是一份理想的工作。 But I’m going to try this new thing. I think there’s great wisdom there.

Ramit:这很可怕。我的意思是,她了解我,她知道我需要内化这一点,因为很容易开始旋转,然后说,好吧,现在这将是永远。我们再也不能住在这里了。当然,就像你说的,那不是真的。我们可以尝试。如果我们不喜欢,生活中的大多数事情都是可逆的或可恢复的,但不是所有的事情。这些事我们得小心。但对于很多事情,如果你搬到一个不同的行业,你不喜欢它,甚至不同的公司,很多时候你可以回去,知道和感觉,让我真的说,好的,让我们迈出下一步,看它引导我们。

埃玛:好的,我们休息一会儿,马上回来。

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好吧。我知道你在你的新课程《找到你的理想工作》中涉及了很多话题。它看起来是关于潜在的找一份新工作,也许是创造你自己喜欢的职业,而不是找一份工作。同样,关于加薪或津贴的谈判,更多的灵活性,诸如此类的事情。所以我想问你的一件事是,我认为很多公司不得不远程办公,其中很多可能会继续保持远程办公,我认为这很棒。我认为这对雇主和求职者都有好处。但对求职者来说,缺点就是竞争会更激烈。那么,对于如何在这场新的竞争中脱颖而出,你有什么建议给我们的听众吗?

Ramit:对,我想介绍一下职业生涯季节的概念,就像生活中有不同的季节,我们都知道,我们有点期待它。它是可预测的。在我们的职业生涯中,我们有相同的赛季。我给你们举个我职业生涯的例子。当我二十多岁的时候,我正处于成长的季节。我每周工作60个小时,我很高兴这样做。我想了解更多。我想做更多。我想我不担心要花多少时间。增长。 That’s what I wanted. So for some people listening, you’re like, yes, that’s me. Like, I want it, growth at all costs. I don’t care about cutting back. I want more. Perfect. That’s where I was in my 20s. Then I think for some people, whether they have children or maybe an elderly parent, maybe they just want to focus more time on their hobby as well. They might switch into a season we call lifestyle. And this is a different season for me, which is, hey, I have I’m married. I want to be able to travel more. I still am very, very interested in my work and I want to do an awesome job. But there are other things outside of that. Balance, lifestyle. And then for some people, they’re like, you know what? I’ve done this for 15, 20 years. I’m a lawyer. I think I want to be a beekeeper. And they just completely switch and we call it reinvention. And for a lot of people listening, that’s you. You’re like, I’ve done this. I want to switch to a totally different industry. Well, each of these seasons is totally natural. You might encounter it at some point in your life. And so if you think about remote work and you realize I actually love being able to wake up, make my coffee and start working and not have to struggle through an hour long commute each way, that to me seems very much like a lifestyle season. And so the first step that we teach in the dream job program is to show you a method to really understand your one lifestyle season. Everybody wants to say, well, I’m growth, but also lifestyle. No, we show you how to pick one. You’ve got to pick one in order to find a dream job. And then we show you how to find that dream job within that season. For example, if you do not want to commute, we show you how to find companies that are remote, but we also show you how to go to companies that are not necessarily remote and convince them to allow you to work remotely. So we have scripts. We show you how to do it in the interview, in the negotiation, even on your cover letter. So for everyone listening, if you have this feeling, this pit in the bottom of your stomach thinking, oh, I don’t want have to get back in a car, fill up my gas two times a week and have to struggle and go through traffic every day, there is a way in the dream job program. And if you decide, you know what, I’m ready for growth. I want to get a ten, twenty thousand dollar raise and I’m willing to put the work in. We can show you how to do that as well.

埃玛:我很喜欢。在这一点上,关于加薪或福利的谈判,比如减少通勤时间或更多的灵活性,你能给我们一个建议或一个你看到很多人在谈判时都会遇到的陷阱吗?因为每次我把你的书《我教你致富》送给我们的团队成员时。我在等待他们对我使用谈判技巧的那一天。我就想,如果有一天他们真的读了,我将听到的下一个评估……

Ramit:我知道,但是他们得去工作。他们必须看完,因为在第九章。所以你会知道他们成功了。所以我告诉你,最大的陷阱就是人们不去做。再说一遍,就像生活中的大多数错误一样,这是疏忽造成的。我们大多数人在生活中都是被动的,我们只是不去做。如果你学会了谈判技巧,你就能彻底改变你的生活。一次5000美元的加薪可以彻底改变生活,因为一次加薪的人往往会一次又一次地得到加薪。所以你要这么做。我给你一个小窍门,把你的谈判要求分成三个部分。 Most people believe you just walk in and say, can I have more money? That’s going to get you kicked out of the office really fast. A better way is to split into three parts. Part one, go to your manager, get clarity on what it takes to exceed expectations. In other words, to be the best at your role, get clarity on that. Number two, deliver on exactly what you and your boss agreed upon. And that can usually take three to six months. Three, walk in the room and negotiate. And remember how I told you that 80 percent of the work is done before you ever walk in the room. This is how it’s done. You spend most of your time getting clarity and delivering. By the time you walk in the room, it’s a foregone conclusion that you deserve the raise that you’re negotiating for.

艾玛:是的,没错。这就是我一直在等待的事情,我可以看到他们在做所有的步骤。所以下次他们来的时候就会是——是的!因为你做了所有的事情。

Ramit:我想对所有在听的人说,我希望你们能抓住——我希望你们抓住刚刚发生的事情。我们的经理说,我希望我的员工能妥善协商。我希望大家都在听。经理们希望给表现最好的员工更多的薪水。换句话说,你的钱就在那里等着被拿走。你必须学习如何要求它和如何争取它的技巧。这正是我们在理想工作中所教的。但你刚才听到招聘经理和经理说,我希望我的员工能和我协商。你们很多人的经理都愿意给你们更高的薪水。我们会在理想工作项目中教你如何获得和获得这些。

艾玛:我很喜欢,我很喜欢,我们会在节目笔记中添加很多这些内容的链接,这样你就可以查看这门课程、他的网站和他的书。我们也喜欢他的时事通讯。我们建议你报名参加。即使你不想要一份新工作,也可以报名参加他的课程,因为至少你可以学到很多营销方面的知识。Ramit,非常感谢你能再来。我总是喜欢和你聊天。总是喜欢听你的建议。我现在对换工作感到很兴奋。不,只是开玩笑。

Ramit:(笑)

艾玛:但是我真的很喜欢这种不安定,不玩小把戏,改变心态的理念。所以谢谢你。

Ramit:非常感谢你。

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